go west young man

[labelle]

Is it time to leave? Cyprus is in the envelope for Syrian defence missiles ( stolen from the government by Is ) and ordnance will be falling on them this evening, in Syria not just in Iraq

[Owl Lady]

Labelle looks like your going on your own. I am not going any where, just keep my head down!!!

[paddywack]

If I could live through the "troubles" in N.Ireland sure not going to worry about this.

[Makum]

Tornadoes flying from Akrotri opens Pandora's box, we may be fortunate IS may not have the know how, to use many of the higher tech weapons they have captured, we are now a legit target, an attack is more than likely to come from sleeper fanatics already embedded in the community targeting European tourists, expats and western military. So be aware, keep away from crowded tourist attractions and don't believe it won't happen here it's only a matter of time.

[Marions]

At the time of the Kuwait wa,r I wa s living in the south and the U.K. Government told people to stay away from Cyprus. It killed several restaurants and other busiensses that relied on tourist trade. So at the very least that could happen here, but then we now have other nationalities , so unless their governments tlel them to stay away, our economy should continue -unless we are blasted off the face of the earth . We hav e no control over it. So, were we to run, - to where ? Ideas on the back of a postage stamp, please!

[paddywack]

Do not take any notice of these panic mongers and prophets of doom who are posting, carry on as normal, you only have one life, live it.

[sophie]

Not moving an inch. The only thing that will get me to shift is the family ringing up to say I've won a major prize on the UK lottery, AND THAT'S NOT LIKELY, 'cos I don't do it. Panic ye not, have another brandy and a decent cup of proper coffee is my suggestion.
BTW, you're not from the south are you? We're made of sterner stuff up here you know. I shall scrutinise my fellow worshippers at Church tomorrow to double check if they are "sleepers".

[waddo]

Well, if nothing else its stopped people worrying about the driving standards! Do you really think anyone is going to send missiles at the TRNC? Just tell me who could afford the importation duty they would have to pay!!!

[Marions]

I read an article somewhere (not that I believe everything I read - I just believe everything I write!), which said, that no one would waste money on sending missiles ot Cyprus but send them to the so and so's who initiated the missiles form Cyprus - namely U.K, America, etc etc. And they are probably right. They want to hurt the 'enemy' and Cyprus is not that.

[labelle]

Difficult to be more Northern than me Sophie and probably the west will not be any more safe than anywhere else in the world during the coming conflict. Total eradication of these fanatics will be almost impossible while Saudi Arabia is funding and arming them.

[Kavenkoy]

Don't panic labelle ,don't panic .

I live in the suburbs of oldham ,dear me if you want to go see a crowd that could be radicalised go up to the keiber pass into the town centre ,been here 20 years and been 10 times .
Everybody has a dome on their house roof and the streets up there are more like Karachi than UK ,same as many towns in the UK especially the north .
I am out in NC November for a week and : next August for 3 weeks and next to Syria or not wouldn't put me off .
The UK has become the dumping ground for these fanatics,but having said that there are a vast majority are peacekeeping citizens .
Religious fanatics and terrorism will be wiped out ,then reform and head for publicity that feeds them ,then will be wiped out and starts all over again ....decency always wins the day

Kav

[frontalman]

I find it hard to read some of the posts on this thread, when there's a British guy in Syria who is begging not to be decapitated. Count your blessing!

[Kavenkoy]

No reason for him to go was there though frontalman ,being nosey ,doing a good turn ,ignoring advice .......we can go and on but most definitely putting more lives at risk by him going ....yes sounds harsh but why leave and ignore everybody's advice including your own family just to go ?

Go swimming you get wet ,no need for him to go.

Kav

[sophie]

Kavenkoy, you make me laugh every time. I'm a Northerner (because my birth certificate says I am) but brought up in the south. However, if I live to be 90+ I'll have a Northern sense of humour (or so my Southern husband says). I know this is a serious subject and I have met some muslims who are appalled by what is happening, but THEY ARE NOT STANDING UP AND PROTESTING THEIR FEELINGS ENOUGH in the UK and the rest of the world. Are they afraid or deeply, deeply actually in agreement? I wonder because I've watched families in the UK, on BBC world, saying how their son is a wonderful, kind, loving person and they can't understand how it has happened. That is nonsense, if they were really caring parents then they would be able to sense when something was not right, not necessarily what, but at least something.

[woodspeckie]

Sophie, exactly my feelings when watching TV interviews.

[owl]

labelle

Your favourite song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NZ04BG7TfA

[Kavenkoy]

Kavenkoy, you make me laugh every time. I'm a Northerner (because my birth certificate says I am) but brought up in the south. However, if I live to be 90+ I'll have a Northern sense of humour (or so my Southern husband says). I know this is a serious subject and I have met some muslims who are appalled by what is happening, but THEY ARE NOT STANDING UP AND PROTESTING THEIR FEELINGS ENOUGH in the UK and the rest of the world. Are they afraid or deeply, deeply actually in agreement? I wonder because I've watched families in the UK, on BBC world, saying how their son is a wonderful, kind, loving person and they can't understand how it has happened. That is nonsense, if they were really caring parents then they would be able to sense when something was not right, not necessarily what, but at least something.

I aim to entertain Sophie thanks lol
Seriously ,don't really know if your saying protests more about peace mr Muslim or sit quietly and we think your involved ?
For me there are very decent Muslim people and very decent Christian people,then there are nasty people everywhere .
Why go to a war zone ?must be mad .......he was going to be easy meat walking around wiith his manchester accent .....but his family are suffering so much and I bet deep down he could have had his time again he would not have gone .
Equally poor respectable Muslim family's in th UK are being outcast in their own community's because their children have gone off to be terrorist .

But do they just breed Islam hatred in their many prayer schools ?
Are they being force fed terrorism ?

I wanted to move south but wifey won't go sadly ,like the fact they have not got no zone Islamic areas like I have 5 miles away .

Anyway back to original post stay where you are people of TRNC it's warmer lol

Kav

[sophie]

Kav, my point really is re the parents of these young men who have been radicalised, some of which are now being recorded as dead. When their parents are interviewed, they appear (at least to me) in total ignorance of what their sons have been up to. If a young Muslim boy who has previously only gone to the Mosque on high days and specific Bayrams, suddenly starts going to meetings and lectures, surely the parents ought to question "why this sudden change" but they and the boys friends always appear to be in total ignorance and astounded. I wonder if its a case of not questioning what a son does, but keeping a daughter under virtual lock and key?

[Makum]

The Muslim community have to fall one side of the line or the other , are they with the country that they live in, in peace or are they with a radicalised group that is against all the west stands for, they can't have it both ways. They want to live in the west and benifit from its freedoms,yet seem to want to change it to some type of medieval state. The uk and Europe has bent over backwards to try and integrate these people into our communities, this has failed, they are now being looked upon as an enemy within. The element of trust is wearing thin atrocities will no doubt occurr in the coming months which can only inflame the situation to the point of civil war. As some have already mentioned we are probably safer on the edge of a war zone than walking the streets of London.

[Philoz]

Sophie-once again you have got right to the point.

My thinking is this-If there are (allegedly)up to 2000 British Asian youths who have joined ISIS,and given that the Asian communities are quite close knit-then wouldn't you think that they would alert the UK authorities?
Maybe they know whats going on and feign surprise?

[Kavenkoy]

Kav, my point really is re the parents of these young men who have been radicalised, some of which are now being recorded as dead. When their parents are interviewed, they appear (at least to me) in total ignorance of what their sons have been up to. If a young Muslim boy who has previously only gone to the Mosque on high days and specific Bayrams, suddenly starts going to meetings and lectures, surely the parents ought to question "why this sudden change" but they and the boys friends always appear to be in total ignorance and astounded. I wonder if its a case of not questioning what a son does, but keeping a daughter under virtual lock and key?

I would agree with your points in full Sophie .
The only issue i see and this may be me so please tell me .
I don't see this as Muslim ,I see this as a change into a Islamic fundamentalist .....Muslims I have met are peaceful ,community driven ,respectful .
There is something been bred in their own customs that changes the youth into a arrogant attitude that think they are here to kill others ,Brits and yanks especially .

The issue is there's to point out and the changes they see to be reported ....never going to happen is it .
What is going to happen is a civil war as mentioned .... .. Come the day of the revolution where will be others stand ?

Kav

[sophie]

Not wanting to be too flippant Kav., but far better brains than mine are trying to sort out the problem and they are members of "this Institution" or Centre for this that and the other" and they can't come up with a satisfactory answer, so how can I? I think tomorrow I'll go out and hug a tree and talk to my dogs, see if they can come up with something!

[jofra]

One very telling comment that I read a few days ago merely stated that the (claimed) enemies of IS/ISIS/Islamic State were everybody who were not part of IS/ISIS/Islamic state - and that included all westerners, all Christians - and the majority of all Islamists and Muslims......